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In a recent Meta comment, a moderator wrote:

We need more people to go through the /review section. Otherwise it is @Diego and me cleaning it up, which works in the meanwhile but just hides the underlying problem. We decided some time ago to not check it so often, but to me items in the review queue still take too long to be solved by the community (quite often it takes few days) and we tend to end up doing something in there.

How can we encourage all the folks with sufficient rep to chip in?

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Paradoxically, what you just did should be the main thing: creating a post in Meta to bring the issue to the attention of the community. If more manpower is needed in the reviews, and if there's enough community members with enough reputation/privileges (and willingness) to assist, letting them know about the problem should encourage them to take action in the review queues more often.

If for any reason, users with enough privileges are not willing to perform such tasks once they are aware of the problem (nothing wrong with that. Maybe they choose to spend their time in the stack contributing and adding value in a different way) I don't think that there is much you can do.

Obviously you can't make users do something (apart from abiding the "Be nice" policy). The design of the stack rewards users performing certain tasks, since the stacks are gamified.

In the same fashion that users receive reputation for their questions and answers, users receive badges for other useful tasks/accomplishments. Some badges related to moderation award merits in the review queues, such as

  • Custodian (bronze) for completing at least one review task. This is awarded once per review task.
  • Proofreader (bronze) for completing the review of 100 suggested edits. This is awarded only once.
  • Reviewer (silver): for completing the review of 250 posts in a review task. This is awarded once per review task.
  • Steward (gold): for completing the review of 1000 posts in a review task. This is awarded once per review task.
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    Are you seeing an uptick at all in community reviewing after the two threads appeared? I personally have been doing more reviewing. The answers in the other threads helped me get over my hesitation to "vote wrong" -- I'm now voting based on my experience and instincts, with less hesitation. – aparente001 Feb 27 at 17:35
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En mi opinión, muchos usuarios no entran a las colas de revisión porque no sienten que haga falta, así de sencillo.

Como usuario veterano, le suelo dedicar un rato a las colas siempre que entro al sitio, y durante más de un año (mid-2017 a mid-2018) lo hice a diario, fines de semana incluidos, todas las mañanas a primera hora y muchas veces también por la tarde.

Lo más que he visto acumulado en las colas en todo este tiempo fue un (1) día que había, si mal no recuerdo, 8 ítems pendientes: 5 elementos en la cola de First Posts, 2 en las de Low Quality Posts / Late Answers (compartidos con la de FP) y 1 voto de cierre.

Y esos datos son la excepción. Mediante esta query de SEDE que analiza los ítems revisados en los últimos tres años, se puede comprobar que, en un día "medio", lo normal es que entre si acaso 1 elemento a la cola de FP, y a las demás... ninguno. Y en cuanto a tiempos, lo normal es que los elementos queden revisados en apenas 6-7 horas, salvo los votos de reapertura y cierre que tardan un par de días.

Se puede lanzar la misma query sobre otros sitios para hacerse una idea de lo buenos (o malos) que son estos números en comparación con otros sitios Beta e incluso algunos ya graduados.

A la vista de estos datos, sorprenden un poco las afirmaciones que hizo fedorqui en el comentario al que enlaza la pregunta. No discuto que esas sean sus sensaciones, pero los números no parecen reflejar que "necesitamos que más gente pase por /review" ni que las publicaciones se pasen en la cola "unos pocos días".

Y precisamente por eso, porque el estado de las colas no refleja que haga falta gente que las revise, es por lo que la gente no las revisa 1.

Lo cual es uno de los motivos por los que soy de la opinión de que los moderadores deberían evitar en lo posible su participación en las colas, como he indicado en esta discusión en la que, al igual que en el resto de debates de Meta, estaría genial que otros usuarios participasen también.

1 Supuestamente, claro. Porque ya pueden entrar a las colas de revisión 5 usuarios, 50 o 500; que, si solo había entrado un elemento y lo han sacado ya los moderadores con su voto de oro, la actividad de todos esos "colistas" que no han encontrado nada que revisar no queda registrada en ningún sitio, y por tanto queda una (falsa) sensación de poca participación. Es decir, que (hasta donde yo sé) realmente desconocemos si los usuarios entran a las colas o no. Lo único que sabemos es que no revisan (porque no quieren, porque no saben, o porque no pueden).

  • A good point about users looking at the queue and skipping. Personally since my written Spanish is very poor I have to skip any item where (a) I need to comment, (b) it is written solely in Spanish and I would feel obliged to comment in Spanish. This mostly applies to FP, LQP and LA of course, VTC and RO are usually fine. – mdewey Mar 11 at 17:21
  • @mdewey we have a list of "canned" comments for the reviews in Lista de comentarios útiles para el sitio. Of course they don't cover every situation, but they are useful templates. We could expand that list if needed, to provide you with something that could help you comment in Spanish in certain "standard" situations. That could be a useful tool so you don't need to "skip" a review when you see a clear path of action to explain a user how to improve their contributions. – Diego Mar 11 at 20:07
  • @mdewey You can also just leave your thoughts in English and ask for the next reviewer to translate them if need be. I know I wouldn't mind doing so if I saw such a comment while reviewing :) – walen Mar 11 at 20:54
  • Se puede lanzar la misma query sobre otros sitios para hacerse una idea de lo buenos que son estos números en comparación con otros sitios Beta e incluso algunos ya graduados ¿podrías compartir en la respuesta estos datos comparados? Los otros sitios que yo frecuento tienen números bastante mejores que los de Spanish.SE. – fedorqui Mar 11 at 22:27
  • @fedorqui Para contrastar los datos, lancé la query contra los sitios beta Writing y Parenting, y contra los no-beta Photography, ELL y SFF. No me puse a comparar con SO, ELU ni similares porque creo que no tendría sentido, son muchísimo más grandes, pero cada cual que compare con los que quiera (para eso he puesto la query en vez de los datos). – walen Mar 12 at 6:45
  • @fedorqui Que si puedo, luego los añado, pero tengo lío y no sé si encontraré un hueco para hacerlo; por eso el ponerte los sitios en un comentario :) – walen Mar 12 at 6:58
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I can think of two things so far. One, to let others know that the moderators would find this helpful. This question is a start; hopefully someone active in La Tertulia will bring it up there from time to time as well.

Second, I've noticed that deciding whether to close a question here is a bit different from some other sites. I've become persuaded that it makes sense to be less stringent here than on some other sites, but I still feel hesitant to cast a vote unless it's incredibly obvious. Therefore, I think it would be helpful if the moderators shared their magic sauce for how they sift out the untenable questions. In addition, other experienced reviewers could share how they think about it. (Someone might have ended up with a similar approach to how the moderators decide these things, but with perhaps a different way of thinking about it or explaining it.) I guess I'll write another Meta question about that now.

  • Regarding let others know that the moderators would find this helpful: well, it is not us moderators that 'need' the community to help. It is just that the community building is a matter that affects each one of us, so it needs as many people doing it as possible. – fedorqui Feb 19 at 12:03
  • Since the second part has made it to its own question: How do you decide whether to vote to close an iffy question? is it still relevant here? – Diego Feb 19 at 17:38
  • @fedorqui - when I said the moderators need, I was quoting one of the moderators. Maybe this is a chicken and egg situation. The chicken needs the egg, but the egg needs the chicken, ad infinitum.... – aparente001 Feb 19 at 23:58
  • @Diego - I'm hoping more ideas will be contributed for how to encourage etc. – aparente001 Feb 19 at 23:58

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